‘On the Ropes’ Radio host Jenna J chats with Heavyweight contender Tyson Fury
Jenna J: It’s definitely a pleasure to have you. I had to get you because the week previous, I had Wladimir Klitschko on the show and he claimed he talked to your people and they said that you weren’t ready for him, I wanted to give you the opportunity to speak on that.
What do you think about what Wladimir had to say?
Tyson Fury: Well, I can put my life on it and everyone else’s life on it, and one hundred percent of that is bullshit because if Wladimir Klitschko offered me a fight I’d go there and I’d smash his jaw all over the ring for him and he knows that. Emanuel Steward told him that he would get knocked out by me. He knows he’s gonna get knocked out by me, his brothers retired because he didn’t want to fight me and now he’s trying to avoid me this Wladimir, who they say is this great champion but wont fight anybody his own size who’s any good. Now, I’m sending a challenge to Wladimir Klitschko, I’ll fight Wladimir any time any place anywhere, just give me a date and I’ll be there, I don’t care if its on one days notice. There is definitely no way I’d avoid Wladimir, he’d be the last person on earth that I’d try to avoid. I’ve been chasing him for two years and he wont fight me, so if he offered me a fight, I’d take it, I wouldn’t say the money wasn’t right, I’d fight him for free, so if he’s saying I’m scared of him or not ready for him then I’d like to know who he spoke to? Mick Hennessey wouldn’t dare say anything like that, Peter Fury wouldn’t dare say anything like that and I would definitely not refuse the challenge. If Wladimir wants it, he can have it and I’ll definitely relieve him of all his belts. The last big person he fought was Mariusz Wach, he got wobbled and Mariusz Wach’s useless. Tyson Fury is the best heavyweight in the world, never mind a top contender, I am the man, I am the man without the titles and he wont fight me, I’m the most avoided fighter out there, the only ones that do wanna fight me are the ones that nobody else wants and I fight them and I knock them out, so there you have it.
Jenna J: That’s what I like to hear, Tyson. Tyson, one problem that’s came up for you, you had a bit of a trying 2013, you tried twice to have a fight with David Haye and he didn’t really want any of it. Can you tell me what that experience was like in 2013?
Tyson Fury: Well, excuse my French here, but I’d just like to say that David Haye is a pussy and a shit house. He never deserves anything to be talked about his name because he has no morals, he signed and agreed to fight the first time yeah, shit himself, decided to pull out and fake the cut, I don’t even think the cut was genuine I think it was a movie cut like you put on in a movie. The second time he’s signed the contract and gone into a fight, knowing full well that if this is true that he cant fulfil what he’s gonna say. In my opinion that’s just fraud. He says his shoulder has been playing up for ages, why did he sign a fight, why did he fuck me around because all I’ve done there is gave up my mandatory challenge to fight Wladimir when I beat Pulev, to fight David Haye and David Haye didn’t want no part of me so, unless it was a publicity stunt to use my name to try and get publicity we will not know. Now he’s gone into retirement he doesn’t wanna fight me, he was offered a hell of a lot of money, five million pounds sterling, which is about eight or nine million dollars, it’s a hell of a lot of money. I’ve got no excuses for David Haye, all I’ve got is hatred and if I did ever fight him I’d leave him in a funny state in that ring I tell you because all my aggression and anger, I’d definitely take it out on his face.
I think you can tell how I feel about David Haye, I passionately hate the guy with a vengeance and I hope he never comes back boxing because he’s a disgrace. He’s pulled out of Manuel Charr and now me twice, he’s no man at all in my eyes.
Jenna J: Now you mentioned that before the last time you were on the show, that it was a certain path that you were gonna take to become Wladimir’s mandatory, you would have to beat Pulev and then be the mandatory so the terms couldn’t be dictated to you. I know obviously there was a certain amount of money, very large amount of money was offered at you. Do you now regret the move because of what David Haye has done?
Tyson Fury: No, no I don’t because Pulev is a nobody and nobody knows his name, so to go and fight Pulev in Germany or bring him over, people think he may as well go and fight somebody that’s useless because Kubrat Pulev may as well be Joe Bloggs, nobody in England has heard of Kubrat Pulev, and even if they did nobody’s interested because he don’t speak English and he’s a foreigner, he’s Bulgarian or something so, and even if I would of fought Pulev and beat him then Wladimir would have had me waiting till next year anyway so I wouldn’t of got my two fights in 2013, so I’ve heard now that Pulev will fight Wladimir in October, that’s a hell of a long time to wait for some idiot to decide who he wants to fight and who he doesn’t and now I hear Wladimir is gonna fight Alex Leapai in a mandatory position for the WBO belt. Lets not forget that Kevin Johnson knocked out Leapai only three fights ago so I don’t know where they are going with these easy touches? I wish they would let me fight some easy fights!
Jenna J: That’s what people are looking for now, an easy fight, Tyson because now Vitali Klitschko has retired, that belt is open and it seems like people are looking for the least resistance to get that title belt. I know you’ve had interest in that belt for a while. What do you think of Vitali retiring?
Tyson Fury: I think its the best move, because we’ve got one bore-fest out of the division you know. We’ve been bored by the Klitschko’s for so long now, they pick and choose who they want to fight, they don’t fight any dangerous opposition so that’s why they’ve held it for so long. Now is the start of a new era, that WBC is vacant and two new fresh faces are gonna fight for that and hopefully it should bring the glory days back to the heavyweight division. I personally think there’s only three people in the running for that WBC vacant belt, one of them is Bermaine Stiverne because he fought an eliminator against Chris Areola and beat him, the other ones me because I fought a WBC eliminator against Kevin Johnson and beat him and then Chris Areola beat Seth Mitchell in another eliminator. There’s been three elimination contests fought for that belt, so two have got to fight and ones gotta sit back and get the winner. I think we should spin up and whoever loses the spin, the odd man out gets them next, that’s two fights and then the odd man out fights the winner, that’s how I think it should go. And as for Deontay Wilder, if he thinks he’s gonna get somewhere, well if Deontay Wilder gets a shot at that WBC before me, boxing is definitely corrupt and bent because he’s fought nobody, his last fight was against Nicolai Firtha, who I beat three years ago, so he’s fighting people in his thirteenth pro fight who I was fighting in twelve fights! Why does he deserve to fight for the world heavyweight title in front of me when he hasn’t fought an eliminator contest or nothing. He’s fought a load of bums, 30-0 record, and now he wants a world title. I suggest if they wanna put him in for that world title they had better get behind the queue, because there’s Chris Areola, Bermaine Stiverne and Tyson Fury who have all fought elimination contests and won, so its either two of us three should fight for that title if all things are straight.
Jenna J: I definitely agree there. In regards to yourself, there has been one other fighter calling your name out of late, a fighter that you have beaten, Dereck Chisora. Do you have any interest in that rematch?
Tyson Fury: Listen, I’ve got interest in all big boxing matches because in the UK it will probably be a big fight again. But you know, that’s going back two and a half, three years ago I beat that guy, he was no good to me when he was undefeated, never mind when he’s lost three or four fights. I don’t know what they are gonna accomplish by me fighting him again, I’ll knock him out this time. I’d like to have that fight with Chisora, but I’d like to win this world title, this WBC title. I’d like to fight Stiverne or Areola or let them two fight for it and Ill get the winner and Ill definitely take that WBC from either of them two because they are not on my level and then I would like to defend it against Chisora, just like Vitali done in an easy defence. All these people who are ranked in the top ten, I see them as easy defences. Deontay Wilder, he’s a disaster waiting to happen, Chisora, and easy defence but he’s gonna give me a bit of a tussle but gonna get smashed to bits, Manuel Charr, any of them top ten people are all easy fights for me but not one of them we can get. Chisora, now he’s ranked number six above me, I don’t know what the WBC are doing, they have dropped me from number three to number eight, so he will be on the tales of that WBC title as well. There are so many people trying to get hold of it, but the only legitimate people who can fight for it because we fought eliminators is Chris Areola, Bermaine Stiverne and Tyson Fury.
Jenna J: Tyson, with the road that you’ve had, I have to ask you this part of it. Winning the heavyweight title is obviously a big accomplishment, something you would like to do, but would you feel truly like a champion if you don’t beat the guy who people consider to be the champion. So if you win a vacant belt, will you truly feel like a champion or do you feel that you will have to fight Wladimir to really have that recognition?
Tyson Fury: Listen, if Wladimir wants to fight me I’ll gladly, gladly go to Germany or Istanbul or China, anywhere where he wants to go to fight Wladimir, OK. Let me tell you this, I’ve stated it for a long time, you can look at all the internet blogs, Wladimir Klitschko will not fight Tyson Fury ever as long as he lives, and if he does it will be a miracle because that man is frightened of me. Whether people wanna believe it or not, whether they say I’m fat and useless and cant fight and I’ve got a glass chin or whatever they wanna say, I cant be that bad because I’ve won twenty one times in a row, I’ve won two world title eliminators and I’ve won five different titles. He is frightened of me because Emanuel (Steward) told him that I’d knock him out and I saw the competition with him and I mentally broke him down in the sauna. He will not fight me, no matter what he says, unless he gets in that ring, even if he signs the contract like David Haye did, I wont say its on till I’m in that ring and I’m going to knock him out. But like you say they are all there, I’m not going anywhere, I’m twenty five, Wladimir is thirty seven or eight, Bermaine Stiverne is thirty five, Chris Areola is in his thirty’s, all these guys they can hang around even if they wanna make me wait till last Ill still be here. I’ll be a little bit more tanned, my hair will be a little bit longer, I’ll be a little bit sexier, a little bit older and I’ll still be knocking on that door.
Jenna J: Tyson, would you agree that the biggest fight that can be made in the heavyweight division is between you and Wlad right now?
Tyson Fury: Do you think that the biggest fight? Because I do, and I don’t believe that any of those guys I’ve mentioned are as big a name as I am. Tyson Fury is the man to beat, I’ve got the name, I’ve got the reputation, I’ve got the record, I just ain’t got the belts and if Wlad fights me Ill have all four of them and he knows that. I guarantee Wlad don’t fight me, Wlad’s gonna retire rather than fight me, or fight some easy victims like he has been doing.
Jenna J: Tyson, I’ve just got a couple more questions before I let you off the line here. As were talking about the biggest fights that can be made, I do wanna ask you this one here because its now the talk of boxing again because Manny Pacquioa has been elevated to the number one position for Floyd Maywether’s belt. I’m curious do you think that fight will ever happen?
Tyson Fury: To be honest with you, that fight is like a David Haye vs Tyson Fury fight, one of them wants it and the other one don’t for whatever reason. I don’t think its gonna happen and if it does happen its too late now. If it would have happened two or three years ago when everyone in the world was talking about it, then it would have been a big fight, but Paqcuiao, in my opinion has lost a couple in a row and won one also, but he’s shot, not shot to a lower level fighter but shot to somebody like Mayweather. Its happening too late in their careers, why did they not fight each other when they were both in their primes?
Them lighter weights they don’t interest me, any weights, ten stone and 140, 147, 154 any of them weights I’m not interested in, all I’m interested in is heavyweight boxing. It,’s a total different sport, a total different game and that’s the division I’m in and thats the only one I’m interested in.
Any of them fights, Mayweather, Paqcuiao, whoever, Mayweather fought whoever, Paqcuiao fought whoever, I’m not really interested in it, I’m only interested in heavyweight boxing.
Jenna J: You mention heavyweight boxing, that used to be the most prestigious title that you could win in boxing, Tyson, the lower weights didn’t matter as much. Do you think if you hold that title you can bring back some of that prestige to the division?
Tyson Fury: I don’t know it, I definitely, definitely definitely think that the heavyweight title can be the biggest goal in sport, never mind boxing! To be the heavyweight champion of the world is the ultimate goal in any sport because there has been so many courageous champions in the past, its going through a dull moment at the minute because the Klitschko’s have got all the belts and although they are educated and people think they are roll models, they are not colourful, nobody is interested because they are Russians or whatever, eastern Europeans and nobody cares. If that title goes back to America or England or Ireland or any English speaking country, then the heavyweight division is gonna be back on course.
When I get that championship yeah, the world is gonna have the most colourful champion since Muhammad Ali, definitely, its only a matter of time.
Whoever they put in front of me I’ll beat, and listen let them all fight each other, they don’t want to fight me, Ill definitely get my shot sooner or later.
There are a couple of fights I’d just like to mention, considering I’m on US radio – Id like to fight Bermaine Stiverne one hundred percent, or whoever wins out of them or if I get the shot or whatever. I’d like to fight Deontay Wilder, that’s the fight. Bermaine Stiverne isn’t really known in the UK, he’s not a big name. People don’t really know Chris Areola in the UK, but who they do know in the UK is Deontay Wilder. He’s the man with the big punching record, he’s America’s greatest hope so lets get it on with Britain’s greatest hope and let the two greatest hopes of the two allies fight each other and may the best man win, but there’s only gonna be one best man and that’s Tyson Fury because I believe that Deontay Wilder is no good to me, I’ll knock him out.
Yeah, I can guarantee if I fight Deontay Wilder it will definitely be awesome action, the heavyweights will definitely get some glory then because there’s gonna be none stop punching and action and someone’s getting knocked out early on. Its definitely not going the distance, its definitely gonna be explosive, and somebody s definitely gonna get carried out of the ring.
I’m calling out Deontay Wilder live on US radio, I want you pussy boy! fight Tyson Fury. Either fight me in an eliminator or I’ll fight the winner of Areola and Stiverne or if I get straight in for the vacant title. I don’t know what’s gonna happen yet but over the next few weeks or months I think we will know what’s gonna happen and all the cards will be laid on the table.
Jenna J: Well, you just spoke about what would happen if you faced Deontay Wilder, but as you think that Wladimir will never ever meet you in the ring, I want you to describe how you think that fight would play out from the opening bell to the finish because it seems like now were not gonna see it so only you describing it will tell us how it would of went?
Tyson Fury: I’ll tell you what will happen yeah, Wladimir would have no idea what to do with me because his jab and grab little trick and lean all over someone who’s six foot two, its not gonna work, I’m six foot nine and two hundred and fifty odd pounds. He’s not gonna lean on me, he ain’t gonna out jab me, Wladimir’s a jab and grab, he hasn’t got another punch has he? He sometimes throws a right hand if he definitely thinks it gonna land. If he ain’t landing his jab and he cant grab hold of me and lean on me, he’s lost the fight.
Wladimir would lose heart like tipping a bottle of coke upside down with no lid on it, that would be Wladimir’s heart draining out of his body and then he’d go into his shell and then he’d get knocked spark out, that’s the only thing I can see.
OK, he might throw a couple, but when they don’t land he’s gonna fall to bits because he’s used to being the bigger man in there, he’s used to bullying his opponents and he’s used to fighting people who are knackered after a few rounds. No disrespect but the average American heavyweight today, after four or five rounds he’s shot his bolt, its only really Deontay Wilder who is a proper athlete and Brian Jennings, the rest of the guys are a bit chubby and a bit fat and they don’t really have the good work rate you know. Just as a pure athlete alone, that’s how Wladimir has beaten these guys, when hes got someone who’s fitter than he is, younger than he is, more hungry than he is, he’s not gonna do it, he’s not gonna win.
I’ll tell you what would happen yeah, I’d give Wladimir a boxing lesson before knocking him out.
Jenna J: My final question for you Tyson. You have one of the most active Twitter pages that I’ve seen of any boxer, one of the most popular ones, you’ve a lot of fans out there, any message you want to pass onto your supporters?
Tyson Fury: I just wanna say hold on everyone because they cannot deny me any longer, no longer they can deny Tyson Fury for the world title shot. If they can give some bums who cant fight a world title fight, I fought two world title eliminators and I’m one of the biggest names in heavyweight boxing, so what am I doing wrong?
Is it the fact that I can fight or I can talk, I don’t know, but they wont fight. They have to fight me this year coming, I cant wait another year without a title fight, but we will see all to be unveiled!